Comments on: Guaranteed Raid Spots http://www.parrydodgespin.com/2008/04/11/guaranteed-raid-spots/ News, Optimization & Opinions on Rogues in World of Warcraft Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:12:40 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Zackoria http://www.parrydodgespin.com/2008/04/11/guaranteed-raid-spots/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Zackoria Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:34:24 +0000 http://www.parrydodgespin.com/2008/04/11/guaranteed-raid-spots/#comment-210 My old guild had this very similar problem. It is a big leap from 'we are casual' to 'we want to get more serious about raiding'. It is also a fine line going from casual to hardcore. The one thing i can tell you about doing this is to make sure everyone is on board with this kind of change. Bickering back and forth between two factions can polarize a guild. And as long as you still have the same people you loved to play with before in that family feel setting than you can keep that feeling in a more serious guild. You can keep the same guild feeling but when those raid invites go out you are there for the raid and the raid leader and you have to get serious. I think this is the biggest problem with more casual raiding guilds. Many people cannot see the line that they cross when they accept that raid invite. Raid chat is not Guild chat and every 25 of those people have to understand that to make it work. Now of course no matter what anyone says raid chat will still look alot like guild between pulls and that’s part of what makes raiding so much fun is that you can still joke about something while your running back or while you are buffing as long as that dose not impede on the speed of buffs and especially during boss fights. If certain people just have trouble switching gears like that (and i know its hard to know when its ok to joke or not sometimes) you just gotta tell them they gotta focus more on the fight. Also make sure your raid leader isn’t afraid to break up a conversation in the middle of it to get the raid moving again. One last thing is to be prepared for certain friends that you know and love to play with to not step up to that raiding plate. For the people that don't have that raiding drive if you still value their friendship make sure you find some way to still play with them. When a raid group gets more focused on progressing it can open up a huge gap between the raiders and the non raiders. It will open a gap but make sure that that gap isn’t too big. Try to make them feel included. Whether it be arenas or playing alts that second half of the guild has to have something to keep them part of that family still. Edit: I would also like to apologize about my long post. I still don't know how this keeps happening (i talk way too much). >< My old guild had this very similar problem. It is a big leap from ‘we are casual’ to ‘we want to get more serious about raiding’. It is also a fine line going from casual to hardcore. The one thing i can tell you about doing this is to make sure everyone is on board with this kind of change. Bickering back and forth between two factions can polarize a guild. And as long as you still have the same people you loved to play with before in that family feel setting than you can keep that feeling in a more serious guild.
You can keep the same guild feeling but when those raid invites go out you are there for the raid and the raid leader and you have to get serious. I think this is the biggest problem with more casual raiding guilds. Many people cannot see the line that they cross when they accept that raid invite. Raid chat is not Guild chat and every 25 of those people have to understand that to make it work.
Now of course no matter what anyone says raid chat will still look alot like guild between pulls and that’s part of what makes raiding so much fun is that you can still joke about something while your running back or while you are buffing as long as that dose not impede on the speed of buffs and especially during boss fights. If certain people just have trouble switching gears like that (and i know its hard to know when its ok to joke or not sometimes) you just gotta tell them they gotta focus more on the fight. Also make sure your raid leader isn’t afraid to break up a conversation in the middle of it to get the raid moving again.
One last thing is to be prepared for certain friends that you know and love to play with to not step up to that raiding plate. For the people that don’t have that raiding drive if you still value their friendship make sure you find some way to still play with them. When a raid group gets more focused on progressing it can open up a huge gap between the raiders and the non raiders. It will open a gap but make sure that that gap isn’t too big. Try to make them feel included. Whether it be arenas or playing alts that second half of the guild has to have something to keep them part of that family still.

Edit: I would also like to apologize about my long post. I still don’t know how this keeps happening (i talk way too much). ><

]]> By: Naissa http://www.parrydodgespin.com/2008/04/11/guaranteed-raid-spots/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Naissa Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:29:46 +0000 http://www.parrydodgespin.com/2008/04/11/guaranteed-raid-spots/#comment-207 My guild seems very similiar to yours and is going through the same things. Its really hard to find dedicated people that actually know how to play though. :/ At least on my server. My guild seems very similiar to yours and is going through the same things. Its really hard to find dedicated people that actually know how to play though. :/ At least on my server.

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